Dear Reader at Physics World, warily I read the article by Zeno Geradts in Physics World of July. First of all, there is no "University of Technology" in Rijswijk. Geradts studied at a vocational college, below the level of a typical British Polytechnic. This is not necessarily a bad thing; people develop in the right environment. However, unlike in Britain or the United States, there is very little physical forensic science at Dutch universities. (Sociology (criminology), pathology, and biology (RNA) are represented to some extent.) This is matter of ongoing discussions in The Netherlands. Several serious judicial mistakes were made based on the "research" at the Dutch Forensic Institute (NFI). And both the NFI, where Geradts works, and the Pieter Baan Centrum; its psychology counterpart, seldom have their work scrutinised in the scientific arena. Therefore, the University Maastricht made plans to open its own forensic lab. But, ironically, this university has no science departments (physics, chemistry, etc.). Unfortunately, "Forensic Science" in The Netherlands is part of the closed Department-of-Justice establishment, with enough influence and resources to keep scientists abay. Their tinkering is often taken more serious by the judges than expert witnesses for the defence from universities. In psychology, professor Wagenaar, a renounced expert witness, who, for example, testified in Israel in the trial of Demjanuk, has tried to set a code for psychology witnesses. These rules include, among others, the almost trivial rule that both the prosecutor and the defence receive the scientific report, which, bizar, is not common practice in The Netherlands, certainly not at the NFI. For me, it proves once more that true science is as delicate and intricate as art and nature and often spoilt by people with ulterior motives. Yours sincerely, Norbert Ligterink PhD, MemInstP, CPhys